NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

Peter Riley riley at amnh.org
Thu Jul 27 10:15:43 EDT 2006


How would you keep from tipping when your rescuee stands on the loop hanging
off the side of your boat?

 

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From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net
[mailto:nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of Mo Fridlich
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:42 AM
To: Erik Baard; nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

 

It is a good idea to keep a rope that will fit around the cockpit and hang
down into the water. The end in the water should have a loop for the person
to put their foot in and thus give them a boost up. I carry one in the
pocket of my life vest that will fit my cockpit, but it is adjustable and
would most likely fit any kayak.

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From: Erik Baard <mailto:erik at licboathouse.org>  

To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net 

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:49 PM

Subject: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

 

Ocean Kayak told me that the Malibu 2 XL was designed with 5 years worth of
girth growth factored in because the company was having trouble keeping up
with America's obesity problem. Fortunately, some studies say we've leveled
off. I'm doing my share -- dropped 25 pounds from my peak of 240 to 215, but
hey -- I'm 6'4.5".

Seriously, I have done some rescues on obese people and they've been fine --
in calm water conditions. But are there techniques for this circumstance?

My own solutions have been:

1) A third boat for rafting up, stabilizing the primary rescuer's craft.
2) Once actually getting out of my own boat and holding both sterns behind
the person being rescued, placing one foot in my boat, and using the other
leg to boost the person back into their boat.

This second method requires that I exit my boat. That's fine in ideal
conditions (I do solo reentries pretty well), but not in chop or traffic. 

Any other ideas? I'd hate to exclude people based on weight.

Best regards,

Erik


On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:32 PM, mike pidel wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501
257.html
Overloading Cited By NTSB in Fatal Tour Boat Sinking
 
By Michelle García
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 26, 2006; Page A04
 
NEW YORK, July 25 -- A cruise boat on a foliage tour on Lake George last
year was overloaded and should have been carrying far fewer passengers when
it capsized and 20 elderly people died, according to a report issued by
federal investigators Tuesday.
 
The National Transportation Safety Board found that the tour boat, the Ethan
Allen, had 48 people on board when it overturned on a calm day on the lake
in the Adirondacks. The vessel was certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to
carry 48 passengers and two crew members, but the guidelines were drafted
when the average American weighed 140 pounds, about 35 pounds less than the
average now.
 
What's more, the Ethan Allen, operated by Shoreline Cruises, underwent a
modification after its certification that made the boat suitable for only 14
people, investigators found.
 
best
mike
 
http://galvoguy.blogspot.com/
 
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