NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

Thu Jul 27 10:23:01 EDT 2006

Peter,

This stirrup technique is normally used with a paddle float rescue.  The stirrup goes on the rescuee's boat.  An alternative that I've seen is to have a longer rope that attaches the paddle holding the paddle float to the boat of the rescuee.

Bill

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	From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net [mailto:nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of Peter Riley
	Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:16 AM
	To: 'Mo Fridlich'; 'Erik Baard'; nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
	Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

	How would you keep from tipping when your rescuee stands on the loop hanging off the side of your boat?

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	From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net [mailto:nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of Mo Fridlich
	Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:42 AM
	To: Erik Baard; nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
	Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

	It is a good idea to keep a rope that will fit around the cockpit and hang down into the water. The end in the water should have a loop for the person to put their foot in and thus give them a boost up. I carry one in the pocket of my life vest that will fit my cockpit, but it is adjustable and would most likely fit any kayak.

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		From: Erik Baard <mailto:erik at licboathouse.org>  

		To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net 

		Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:49 PM

		Subject: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

		Ocean Kayak told me that the Malibu 2 XL was designed with 5 years worth of girth growth factored in because the company was having trouble keeping up with America's obesity problem. Fortunately, some studies say we've leveled off. I'm doing my share -- dropped 25 pounds from my peak of 240 to 215, but hey -- I'm 6'4.5".

		Seriously, I have done some rescues on obese people and they've been fine -- in calm water conditions. But are there techniques for this circumstance?

		My own solutions have been:

		1) A third boat for rafting up, stabilizing the primary rescuer's craft.
		2) Once actually getting out of my own boat and holding both sterns behind the person being rescued, placing one foot in my boat, and using the other leg to boost the person back into their boat.

		This second method requires that I exit my boat. That's fine in ideal conditions (I do solo reentries pretty well), but not in chop or traffic. 

		Any other ideas? I'd hate to exclude people based on weight.

		Best regards,

		Erik

		On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:32 PM, mike pidel wrote:

		http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501257.html
		Overloading Cited By NTSB in Fatal Tour Boat Sinking

		By Michelle García
		Washington Post Staff Writer
		Wednesday, July 26, 2006; Page A04

		NEW YORK, July 25 -- A cruise boat on a foliage tour on Lake George last year was overloaded and should have been carrying far fewer passengers when it capsized and 20 elderly people died, according to a report issued by federal investigators Tuesday.

		The National Transportation Safety Board found that the tour boat, the Ethan Allen, had 48 people on board when it overturned on a calm day on the lake in the Adirondacks. The vessel was certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to carry 48 passengers and two crew members, but the guidelines were drafted when the average American weighed 140 pounds, about 35 pounds less than the average now.

		What's more, the Ethan Allen, operated by Shoreline Cruises, underwent a modification after its certification that made the boat suitable for only 14 people, investigators found.

		best
		mike

		http://galvoguy.blogspot.com/

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