NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking

Erik Baard erik at licboathouse.org
Thu Jul 27 11:59:54 EDT 2006


Great idea that I'd entirely forgotten! That method should be  
especially suitable to our public sit-on-top fleet. THANKS!

On Jul 27, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Mo Fridlich wrote:

> It is a good idea to keep a rope that will fit around the cockpit and  
> hang down into the water. The end in the water should have a loop for  
> the person to put their foot in and thus give them a boost up. I carry  
> one in the pocket of my life vest that will fit my cockpit, but it is  
> adjustable and would most likely fit any kayak.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Erik Baard
>> To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:49 PM
>> Subject: NYCkayaker Weight and Rescues: Was ferry sinking
>>
>> Ocean Kayak told me that the Malibu 2 XL was designed with 5 years  
>> worth of girth growth factored in because the company was having  
>> trouble keeping up with America's obesity problem. Fortunately, some  
>> studies say we've leveled off. I'm doing my share -- dropped 25  
>> pounds from my peak of 240 to 215, but hey -- I'm 6'4.5".
>>
>> Seriously, I have done some rescues on obese people and they've been  
>> fine -- in calm water conditions. But are there techniques for this  
>> circumstance?
>>
>> My own solutions have been:
>>
>> 1) A third boat for rafting up, stabilizing the primary rescuer's  
>> craft.
>> 2) Once actually getting out of my own boat and holding both sterns  
>> behind the person being rescued, placing one foot in my boat, and  
>> using the other leg to boost the person back into their boat.
>>
>> This second method requires that I exit my boat. That's fine in ideal  
>> conditions (I do solo reentries pretty well), but not in chop or  
>> traffic.
>>
>> Any other ideas? I'd hate to exclude people based on weight.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:32 PM, mike pidel wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/ 
>>> AR2006072501257.html
>>> Overloading Cited By NTSB in Fatal Tour Boat Sinking
>>>  
>>> By Michelle García
>>> Washington Post Staff Writer
>>> Wednesday, July 26, 2006; Page A04
>>>  
>>> NEW YORK, July 25 -- A cruise boat on a foliage tour on Lake George  
>>> last year was overloaded and should have been carrying far fewer  
>>> passengers when it capsized and 20 elderly people died, according to  
>>> a report issued by federal investigators Tuesday.
>>>  
>>> The National Transportation Safety Board found that the tour boat,  
>>> the Ethan Allen, had 48 people on board when it overturned on a calm  
>>> day on the lake in the Adirondacks. The vessel was certified by the  
>>> U.S. Coast Guard to carry 48 passengers and two crew members, but  
>>> the guidelines were drafted when the average American weighed 140  
>>> pounds, about 35 pounds less than the average now.
>>>  
>>> What's more, the Ethan Allen, operated by Shoreline Cruises,  
>>> underwent a modification after its certification that made the boat  
>>> suitable for only 14 people, investigators found.
>>>  
>>> best
>>> mike
>>>  
>>> http://galvoguy.blogspot.com/
>>>  
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