NYCkayaker boathouses on the Hudson river in NYC

Kai Mei
Wed Nov 1 11:01:47 EST 2006

Here's a nice example.

Materials cost is less than $300.

44 lbs inc. all gear, floatbags, pump, paddle and bag.

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Mr. Softeee
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: NYCkayaker boathouses on the Hudson river in NYC


     Here we go! A voice of reason! Thats why I like you Jim! A problem 

     If you can't store your kayak get a folding boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's

called making lemonade out of lemons!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>From: "Jim Bixler" <>
>Subject: Re: NYCkayaker boathouses on the Hudson river in NYC
>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:39:10 -0500
>Two-words: Folding Boat
>Keep it behind your couch and you don't have to volunteer at DTBH
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:46:21 -0500
> >From: mike pidel <>
> >Subject: Re: NYCkayaker boathouses on the Hudson river in NYC
> >To: "'Nancy Brous'" <>,
> >Message-ID: <00b401c6fd46$c57428a0$0200a8c0@e510>
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> >
> >The church of the downtown boathouse always brings up these arguments.
> >There are other churches out there.
> >
> >In fact with the current method of boat storage at the DTBH is very
> >exclusionary to the public, only certain people are allowed to store
> >their boats there.
> >
> >If they truly believed in what is posted, there would be no private
> >boats in the DTBH. Very few paddlers have the amount of time to set
> >aside to do the volunteer work that is required.
> >
> >In NYC parks there are private restaurants, concessions, softball fields
> >with a hierarchy of fee's to third party operators.
> >
> >79 th street marina is a subsided large vessel storage facility, the
> >chelsa piers was sold at below market rate, I believe it was supposed to
> >have public access to the water.
> >
> >  They are Dog runs, skateboards parks,  private trapeze schools in the
> >park.   The tennis courts at central park have locker rooms with private
> >storage available. The model boat house in central park has storage for
> >the private model boats.
> >
> >Every free on street parking space is subsided public space.  I wouldn't
> >doubt the 79th street marina has subsided indoor parking for the power
> >boat owners.
> >
> >I am hoping the the pier 66 facility turns out with a storage facility
> >for the people that just want to paddle.
> >
> >My concern was that if the DTBH is denied their original downtown
> >location, they may try to compete for the pier 66 location.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
> >[] On Behalf Of Nancy Brous
> >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:02 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: NYCkayaker boathouses on the hudson river in NYC
> >
> >
> >
> >mike, i assume that you refer to the downtown boathouse in the below
> >post?
> >
> >i would like to provide a little background information which might
> >broaden your perspective on boathouses on the hudson in NYC.
> >
> >hudson river park, the subject of this article, occupies just about 6
> >miles of the hudson river waterfront in nyc (roughly from the top of
> >rockefeller park to 59th street).  that is hardly the whole of NYC's
> >hudson waterfront.  there is a NYC Parks Department-run human-powered
> >boating launch and storage facility at 79th street, and a canoe club at
> >inwood.
> >
> >the hudson river park act provided for the construction of 4 new public
> >boathouses to be built on this public land with public funds at piers
> >26, 66, 84, and 96.
> >right now 2 of the boathouses are complete:  piers 96 and 84.  (84 is
> >yet to open for use).
> >
> >almost 2 years ago a request for proposals (rfp) was issued for the
> >operation of the first boathouse to come online, at pier 96.  this is an
> >open and fairly transparent process.  i personally posted the
> >information here and on many other lists around the country, as did many
> >other members of the park's advisory council, park officials, and
> >concerned members of the public.  anyone was welcome to submit a
> >proposal.
> >only the downtown boathouse submitted a proposal for operation of that
> >facility.  they now operate that facility.
> >
> >the next boathouse to open will be at 44th street. it will be operated
> >by Floating the Apple.  there was no rfp process for this facility.
> >this organization was chosen by the hudson river park trust in a closed
> >process.
> >
> >another rfp will be released in the next few weeks for an operator for
> >the next boathouse to be completed, at pier 66 (26th street).  again,
> >this will be open to anyone who chooses to make a proposal for its
> >operation.
> >when that rfp comes out i will post the info here and elsewhere.
> >the operation of the new pier 26 boathouse was to be determined  through
> >an rfp process as well, but if this article is correct, that process may
> >now be indefinitely delayed.
> >
> >while jim wetteroth's being interviewed for this article may appear to
> >suggest that he expects his organization to eventually operate that
> >boathouse, if you read carefully, he is quoted at least in part because
> >he was at the CB1 waterfront committee meeting.  the interviewer's
> >description of the dtbh programs is actually a bit out of context, in my
> >opinion.
> >
> >as mr. wetteroth has operated a public boating facility in the area for
> >nearly 20 years, his comments provide useful insight into the current
> >financial issues facing the new boathouse for any operator, not just the
> >dtbh program.  while the new boathouse at pier 96 is quite nice (running
> >water and heat in the winter, as mentioned) a facility for seasonal
> >boating use could certainly function quite well without such "luxuries"
> >if it meant the difference between a fully appointed facility and no
> >facility at all.
> >
> >there are many individuals and organizations (including but certainly
> >not limited to the dtbh) throughout this city and general area who work
> >tirelessly to ensure the future of human-powered boating and free public
> >water-access for this entire community.
> >and we are a community, not a series of competing factions out to
> >monopolize the boathouses and the waterfront.
> >
> >i encourage everyone on this list to keep an eye out for the rfp when it
> >is released, to make proposals for its operation, to use their energies
> >constructively, and to generally act like the community of people with a
> >common goal that we are, or should be.
> >
> >nancy brous
> >metropolitan region director
> >
> >
> ><<
> >
> >Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1.  Tribeca's boathouse on Hudson Park's chopping block (mike pidel)
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:51:13 -0400
> >From: mike pidel <>
> >Subject: NYCkayaker Tribeca's boathouse on Hudson Park's chopping
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> >
> >Why does one  organization try and monopolize all the boathouses on the
> >Hudson?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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