NYCkayaker boathouses on the Hudson river in NYC

David Gottlieb
Thu Nov 2 12:04:39 EST 2006

Yes, in Harriman State Pk. you need to get a yearly permit to launch for a
fee. In the Adirondacks you don't need any permits or pay any fees to launch
from public put-ins, nor do you anywhere along the Hudson in New York where
there is a public launch site (NYC obviously being the miscreant in the
state.) There are free launch sites through out Long Island also. So it is
only NYC that is guilty.

However, to make boating around the boroughs safer, the city should install
docks and/or other types of launch sites for boats every few miles, at a
minimum, in case paddlers need to exit in an emergency.....

On 11/2/06 10:19 AM, "MC" <> wrote:

> Eric Baard's crack about going to NJ to launch brings to my Jersey mind the
> following observations. To paddle in Lake Sebago in Harriman St. Park, New
> York I need to purchase yearly permit (now up to $25), but to paddle a few
> miles away in Monksville Reservoir, New Jersey, I need no such permit;
> similarly to paddle in Wawayanda St. Park, New Jersey, I only need to pay a
> parking fee, which is only collected during the busy park usage.
> I am guessing that Jersey has realized that collecting small fees are more
> bureaucratic trouble than they are worth, whereas New York loves bureaucracy
> (?). 
> Also, in Harriman St. Park, to hike (or do anything other than boat)
> requires no permit. I am guessing that these boating fees are imposed by New
> York simply because somehow in the distant past they originated, and now
> nobody in the bureaucracy wants to stand up and change things.
> Also note that the parking fee in Wawayanda applies to anybody parking in
> the park, not just boaters.
> I am not sure if there are any significant conclusions to be drawn from the
> above, but I felt the above contrasts were worth mentioning in the context
> of the role of the bureaucracy in administering public facilities. (By the
> way I am among those who believe that 'bureaucracy' is not necessarily a
> dirty word, after all those who rescue us from perilous situations usually
> caused by our own stupidity, our part of the bureaucracy).
> Marty Cohen
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