NYCkayaker Conn. Death, Dry Suits, Liability and Barriers

[mike]

I think that last centimeter happens to everybody 1 time (only) with a DUI
dry suit. I remember when I did that on a dive on the San Diego or Oregon, I
felt the leakage on the way down, I continued and completed the dive. Water
is neutral in water as far as buoyancy, I believe it was an after labor day
dive, when the dry suit wasn't really necessary in the water but more
comfortable in the cool air on the boat and  especially  for redoning for
the  second dive.
I wonder if a torso style immersion suit would work over a dry suit or
wetsuit.
Keep on the deck, you get in trouble and are out of the boat, don the
immersion  torso suit in the water and then work on getting back in the
boat. 
When ascending  mountains below tree line it is rare to put on a shell or
Gore-Tex, except for stops. I now use a down parka over everything  for
stops rather than a shell, works so much warmer  than a shell. 
Recent Improvements like the waist belt co2 inflatable pfd work great where
normal pfd's are too hot or restrictive in many cases. 
Dry suit  design  for kayaking need to be rethought. The issue of a hooded
style That Chalu Kim brings up is huge. 

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net [mailto:nyckayaker-
>>bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Wiener
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:36 PM
>>To: 'nyckayaker'
>>Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Conn. Death, Dry Suits, Liability and Barriers
>>
>>Thanks for that link. It also states that he had no PFD. I'm familiar
>>with diving dry suits, not kayaking ones, but would hate to be in one
>>taking on water without any kind of flotation device. FWIW I managed to
>>take on water in my new DUI on my first dive with it. Missed the last
>>1/8" of the sealing zipper when I donned it. Luckily it was in the shops
>>pool where I was getting instruction on the use of the suit.
>>
>>bonnie13 at earthlink.net wrote:
>>> A comment left 2 after mine was interesting as it was from a group whose
>>membership included some people who were evidently there that day, gives a
>>little more information about the circumstances. NYC Kitesurfers post, #33
>>on the list.
>>>
>>> http://www.topix.net/forum/source/connecticut-post/T670R4L4UHFJNDD4U/p2
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