NYCkayaker Death, Dry Suits, Liability and Barriers

[Don Margiano]

Your point of calling this a frivolous lawsuit without any first hand
knowledge is correct.  Speaking for myself, I only know what I have read
in the newspaper, a source of information that is usually questionable.
I am jumping to a conclusion without all or even most of the facts.  However
this is only a discussion and no actions, legal or otherwise, are being
taken based on this conversation.  

This is not the proper venue for a discussion in health care, nor do
I want to fall in that rat hole either.  Kayaking first aid is always
an interesting topic.

As for the snow, thanks for the offer but I have 2 trucks that are still
buried in my driveway.  All you can see of one are the kayak J bars sticking
up through the snow.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net
[mailto:nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of Richard Clifford
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:26 AM
To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
Subject: NYCkayaker Death, Dry Suits, Liability and Barriers

NYCKayaker:

    The lawsuit by the widow or the estate of the dopey, dead kite 
surfer is not a "frivolous lawsuit" simply because a bunch of folks on 
NYCKayaker say so.

     There has yet to appear anyone who has no first hand knowledge of 
the events or the pleadings or the parties etc. say that is frivolous. 
What you folks have said is a bit absurd: because of what you read in a 
newspaper account of what happened and the litigation that you think the 
lawsuit is absurd. Great analysis there! Based on a newspaper account, 
or accounts of accounts in a newspaper  ...... [The closest to first 
hand was pointed out by Bonnie A. in a letter from some other kite 
surfers that day. But, then I ask how many people have been convicted 
based on eyewitness testimony that was 'mistaken' or exagerated or plain 
wrong? Too many.]

So, my question heading down this next rat hole of a conversation line is:

    What is "socialized" (or bad) about everyone having health care 
coverage?

    Why does universal health insurance coverage equal socialized medicine?

    Plain and simple. ........ and, in an effort to cut off any further 
discussions: for this list let's try to stay on task - kayaking, that is 
what it is about here. If any of you are feeling a bit edgy and would 
like to want to get "tough" then I say go to the gym (or come to my 
house and shovel snow!) - Richard



Don Margiano wrote:

>"Moral of the story= health care for all"???
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>What???  How on Earth did a discussion about a frivolous lawsuit
>and personal responsibility have anything to do with socialized
>medicine?  
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