NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation

Thu Mar 29 22:58:09 EST 2007

Thanks guys for the details. It helps a great deal. I
also discovered "prolific" Bonnie's website and she
posted some pics from a circumnavigation of SI that
help flesh out the details. 
Will 

--- Richard Whitby <richard.whitby at verizon.net> wrote:

> Why cross the Kill van Kull when you don't have to?
>  
> If you cross Newark Bay from east to west, just
> south of the container port,
> you can see any container ships making the turn from
> the Kill van Kull into
> the bay. It also puts you in the shallows behind
> Jersey Gardens and on the
> correct side of the Arthur Kill to bypass Howland
> Hook. If you choose to
> visit Shooter's, then you cross the Arthur Kill
> channel at the markers,
> rather than the busier Kill van Kull, and approach
> the island from the west.
> I've done it; it works.
>  
>  
> Richard Whitby
> tel: 201-319-0939
> cell: 201-213-3502
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> From: islesteve7 at netscape.net
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> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:46 PM
> To: richard.whitby at verizon.net;
> nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
> Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>  
> A friend of mine brought this e-mail to my
> attention. I guess I should
> probably reply.
> 
> I am a Staten Islander who has navigated the length
> of Arthur Kill on many
> occasions.  I'm not sure of your point of origin,
> but, from Newark Bay
> heading south you are much better off staying on the
> east side of the bay.
> All the shipping channels are in the middle to the
> west side of the bay. The
> large container ships that pass under the Bayonne
> Bridge turn center channel
> up Newark Bay - just before Shooters Island. When
> you do your crossing you
> should get out as far as possible out into Newark
> Bay/Kill Van Kull at
> Bergen Point - just on the edge of the shipping
> channel. Look as far as
> possible to Port Elizabeth in the west and down Kill
> Van Kull to the east.
> Then make your crossing aiming straight for
> Shoooters Island. The shipping
> channel runs VERY CLOSE to the island. You have to
> paddle into the shallows
> and in beyond the channel markers - pier
> heads/pilings. You can also cross
> to Staten Island right under the bridge. This is the
> shortest distance and
> the large ships can only travel directly under the
> middle of the Bayonne
> Bridge.  Keep in mind that the small channel just
> south of Shooters Island
> is also very busy with commercial boat traffic. 
> 
> If you're travelling down the Arthur Kill stay to
> the east side of the kill.
> Avoid getting within a few hundred feet of the
> container ships
> loading/unloading at Howland Hook - cameras - just
> around the corner from
> Port Ivory - the northeast corner of Staten Island.
> 
> To travel through either of the kills you have to
> watch the currents. At
> some points in the day both Arthur Kill and Kill Van
> Kull flood. Kill Van
> Kull overtakes the Arthur Kill so that you can
> travel for about a mile down
> Arthur Kill on an ebb (Kill Van Kull's flood) and
> then hit the flood from
> the Arthur Kill. Use your Eldridge. The best time is
> when they are both
> ebbing. You may get a slight flood up the Arthur
> Kill until after the
> Goethals Bridge heading south on the kill. I'd stay
> on the east side of the
> kill all the way down - to the left of the channel
> buoys. The west side is
> the shipping channel and most of the oil loading
> terminals. There are fixed
> cameras monitoring the terminals. If you get too
> close to the terminals The
> Coast Guard will automatically be summoned. 
> 
> Hope this is helpful.
> 
> - Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard.whitby at verizon.net
> To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
> Sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
> It's probably best to stay to the eastern side of
> Newark Bay, then cross the
> channel once you're just south of Port Elizabeth.
> Don't wait until you get
> close to the Kill van Kill, or you'll find yourself
> dealing with ship
> traffic from three directions.
>  
> Shooter's Island, off northern S.I., has decaying
> bulkheads from the days
> when it was home to several shipyards. There are
> lots of old bottles
> scattered around, although most are broken. The
> island's interior contains
> poison ivy in remarkable abundance.
>  
> Both sides of the Arthur Kill are interesting,
> including Prall's Island and
> the ship graveyard on the S.I. side, south of Fresh
> Kills. There's also an
> old ferryboat on the N.J. side that you can paddle
> through and massive
> remains of a coal-loading facility.
>  
> The best launch/takeout I've found is the Woodbridge
> Township boat ramp.
> There's a tiny beach on the ramp's southern side. If
> you use that, the
> attendant (when there is one) usually won't try to
> charge the ramp fee. It
> also has a parking lot.
>  
> Richard Whitby
> tel: 201-319-0939
> cell: 201-213-3502
>  
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> On Behalf Of William
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> Subject: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>  
> Hi all,
> So any experience can be shared on paddling down the
> Arthur Kill west of Staten Island? 
> Thinking of doing it  in a month  or two from now
> coming down the Hackensack River.
> thanks,
> Will 
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