NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
bonnie13 at earthlink.net
bonnie13 at earthlink.net
Fri Mar 30 00:23:07 EST 2007
Gotta mention that our guide that day, "Staten Island Steve", was of course the same Steve who gave such good instructions this afternoon. Awesome trip.
-----Original Message-----
>From: William <haawill at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 29, 2007 10:58 PM
>To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
>Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>
>Thanks guys for the details. It helps a great deal. I
>also discovered "prolific" Bonnie's website and she
>posted some pics from a circumnavigation of SI that
>help flesh out the details.
>Will
>
>--- Richard Whitby <richard.whitby at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Why cross the Kill van Kull when you don't have to?
>>
>> If you cross Newark Bay from east to west, just
>> south of the container port,
>> you can see any container ships making the turn from
>> the Kill van Kull into
>> the bay. It also puts you in the shallows behind
>> Jersey Gardens and on the
>> correct side of the Arthur Kill to bypass Howland
>> Hook. If you choose to
>> visit Shooter's, then you cross the Arthur Kill
>> channel at the markers,
>> rather than the busier Kill van Kull, and approach
>> the island from the west.
>> I've done it; it works.
>>
>>
>> Richard Whitby
>> tel: 201-319-0939
>> cell: 201-213-3502
>>
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>> From: islesteve7 at netscape.net
>> [mailto:islesteve7 at netscape.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:46 PM
>> To: richard.whitby at verizon.net;
>> nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
>> Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>>
>> A friend of mine brought this e-mail to my
>> attention. I guess I should
>> probably reply.
>>
>> I am a Staten Islander who has navigated the length
>> of Arthur Kill on many
>> occasions. I'm not sure of your point of origin,
>> but, from Newark Bay
>> heading south you are much better off staying on the
>> east side of the bay.
>> All the shipping channels are in the middle to the
>> west side of the bay. The
>> large container ships that pass under the Bayonne
>> Bridge turn center channel
>> up Newark Bay - just before Shooters Island. When
>> you do your crossing you
>> should get out as far as possible out into Newark
>> Bay/Kill Van Kull at
>> Bergen Point - just on the edge of the shipping
>> channel. Look as far as
>> possible to Port Elizabeth in the west and down Kill
>> Van Kull to the east.
>> Then make your crossing aiming straight for
>> Shoooters Island. The shipping
>> channel runs VERY CLOSE to the island. You have to
>> paddle into the shallows
>> and in beyond the channel markers - pier
>> heads/pilings. You can also cross
>> to Staten Island right under the bridge. This is the
>> shortest distance and
>> the large ships can only travel directly under the
>> middle of the Bayonne
>> Bridge. Keep in mind that the small channel just
>> south of Shooters Island
>> is also very busy with commercial boat traffic.
>>
>> If you're travelling down the Arthur Kill stay to
>> the east side of the kill.
>> Avoid getting within a few hundred feet of the
>> container ships
>> loading/unloading at Howland Hook - cameras - just
>> around the corner from
>> Port Ivory - the northeast corner of Staten Island.
>>
>> To travel through either of the kills you have to
>> watch the currents. At
>> some points in the day both Arthur Kill and Kill Van
>> Kull flood. Kill Van
>> Kull overtakes the Arthur Kill so that you can
>> travel for about a mile down
>> Arthur Kill on an ebb (Kill Van Kull's flood) and
>> then hit the flood from
>> the Arthur Kill. Use your Eldridge. The best time is
>> when they are both
>> ebbing. You may get a slight flood up the Arthur
>> Kill until after the
>> Goethals Bridge heading south on the kill. I'd stay
>> on the east side of the
>> kill all the way down - to the left of the channel
>> buoys. The west side is
>> the shipping channel and most of the oil loading
>> terminals. There are fixed
>> cameras monitoring the terminals. If you get too
>> close to the terminals The
>> Coast Guard will automatically be summoned.
>>
>> Hope this is helpful.
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: richard.whitby at verizon.net
>> To: nyckayaker at rockandwater.net
>> Sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>> It's probably best to stay to the eastern side of
>> Newark Bay, then cross the
>> channel once you're just south of Port Elizabeth.
>> Don't wait until you get
>> close to the Kill van Kill, or you'll find yourself
>> dealing with ship
>> traffic from three directions.
>>
>> Shooter's Island, off northern S.I., has decaying
>> bulkheads from the days
>> when it was home to several shipyards. There are
>> lots of old bottles
>> scattered around, although most are broken. The
>> island's interior contains
>> poison ivy in remarkable abundance.
>>
>> Both sides of the Arthur Kill are interesting,
>> including Prall's Island and
>> the ship graveyard on the S.I. side, south of Fresh
>> Kills. There's also an
>> old ferryboat on the N.J. side that you can paddle
>> through and massive
>> remains of a coal-loading facility.
>>
>> The best launch/takeout I've found is the Woodbridge
>> Township boat ramp.
>> There's a tiny beach on the ramp's southern side. If
>> you use that, the
>> attendant (when there is one) usually won't try to
>> charge the ramp fee. It
>> also has a parking lot.
>>
>> Richard Whitby
>> tel: 201-319-0939
>> cell: 201-213-3502
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net
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>> On Behalf Of William
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:13 PM
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>> Subject: NYCkayaker Arthur Kill Navigation
>>
>> Hi all,
>> So any experience can be shared on paddling down the
>> Arthur Kill west of Staten Island?
>> Thinking of doing it in a month or two from now
>> coming down the Hackensack River.
>> thanks,
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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