NYCkayaker YPRC Commodore

Wed Feb 6 11:31:26 EST 2008

I hate to tell you this but I doubt anyone made it to college ball without a
bit of chemical help aka anabolic, the ones that made it to the pro’s took
their supplements. 

I don’t think there is anything really wrong with it since anyone involved
in sports knows it is a unspoken fact of life, the secret that in always
unspoken but accepted. It was a topic of discussion and just as much a part
of training, weight training over training  and eating correct. Too much
will hinder performance in certain sports and also give that too thick body
look.  At least the anabolic in sports is really harmless to the other
people, except for the rage acts.  Funny how  pro hokey hasn’t even come up
in the media yet, luckily they never throw a stick in anger.  My information
is a bit old and outdated, but in the early 1980’s high school football,
players and baseball players in local yokel towns were juicing. I guess they
stopped since the money dried up in those sports.  It is not all about money
either, but when you add in millions of dollars the competition somehow
increases.  I know this will implicate many people and they will take the
wide stance policy to their grave, the problem with it is, the associated
shame should not be there.   The problem is in today’s litigious society, it
opens a can of worms. The coaches knew, many of the players were minors. The
old b-12 injections the coaches used to administer in the 1960’s and 1970’s
has come under true suspicion.   There are other scandals involving
organizations that are more sinister and truly harmful secrets that have
finally seen the light of day where the shame truly belongs. The juice in
athletic activities goes back to the beginnings and is no big deal, except
they try and point fingers at others, the former General Manager of the
Texas Rangers, right across the street/border from the anabolic Mecca is the
current president. How many prosecutor lawyers, judges and politicians from
athletic backgrounds, would honestly have to recluse themselves from these
cases (not that they would). Just like the senator from the Minnesota
bathroom incident, they would take the hard anti stance to cover their
tracks. I realize I offended some of the people with my cocaine mentioning
in politics, but your CIC was not known for being an angel. Alcohol abuse is
probably worse, but that is so common it does not even garner attention.

Back to Marion Jones, she did nothing different than anyone else that
preceded her, But her superbowl parade has been withdrawn and she is
disgraced and shamed and is looking at real prison time, give me a break.
Might as well go back to prosecuting same sex stuff, if someone lied about
being same sexed would they send him or her to jail? Ten or fifteen years
ago that was probably more of an issue, though it still rears it head.

I hope that someone that has more of the concrete names dates and places
will step up and stop this nonsense, the book deals should make it
economically feasible.

I haven’t even read any of Jose books or excerpt, and I know he is correct
about the shadows.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Higgins [mailto:higginsg2003 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:14 AM
To: mike; jtobin at warpdriveonline.com; bonnie13 at earthlink.net; 'Lee
Reiser/Leona Fontaine'; NYCkayaker at rockandwater.net
Subject: Re: NYCkayaker YPRC Commodore

I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure Eli never used anabolic steroids......
Try some yoga!!!!

mike <mpidel at optonline.net> wrote: 

Sorry I wasn't trying to make an angry statement, it was more of an apology
to lee, since I doubt he knows the evil of yonkers politics.
As far as the giants, that is real nice, but Marion Jones life is ruined
and she is going to jail, meanwhile the giants are "America hero" and they
are getting a ticker tape parade, neither would have achieved the athletic
prowess without anabolic steroids 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jtobin at warpdriveonline.com [mailto:jtobin at warpdriveonline.com]
>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:25 PM
>>To: mike; bonnie13 at earthlink.net; 'Lee Reiser/Leona Fontaine';
>>NYCkayaker at rockandwater.net
>>Subject: Re: NYCkayaker YPRC Commodore
>>
>>Why are you making such and angry statement? Life is
>>good. The NY Giants are the Super Bowl Champions.
>>Enough said.
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:12:03 -0500
>> mike wrote:
>>> I should add, I do not mean to jump on Lee, I don’t
>>>think he is from Yonkers
>>> and understands the nature of yonkers politics. A
>>> Friend of mine as a naïve
>>> pawn was sucked into the game and slowly corrupted till
>>>he were so dirty and
>>> had to do what he was told. Yonkers is the home of the
>>>political scandals
>>> and buy offs. City hall was known for shopping bags of
>>>money and lots of
>>> cocaine. High-ranking city officials that were under
>>>investigation, blowing
>>> their brains out on their father's grave. I know one
>>>percent of what
>>> happened in Yonkers politics, and the one percent I know
>>>makes me err on the
>>> side of caution. I hope that someone that has lived it
>>>and survived will
>>> write a book, it would be a good read.
>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: nyckayaker-bounces at rockandwater.net
>>>>>[mailto:nyckayaker-
>>>>>bounces at rockandwater.net] On Behalf Of
>>>>>bonnie13 at earthlink.net
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:40 PM
>>>>>To: Lee Reiser/Leona Fontaine;
>>>>>NYCkayaker at rockandwater.net
>>>>>Subject: Re: NYCkayaker YPRC Commodore
>>>>>
>>>>>HA!
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, my initial reaction to this was "What the heck?"
>>>>>
>>>>>But I looked back at Mike's email and I see we have a
>>>>>waterborne case of
>>>>>"Eats, Shoots, and Leaves"!
>>>>>
>>>>>For anyone else who's confused, Mike's email started:
>>>>>
>>>>>Bonnie the yprc commodore has asked everybody to write
>>>>>the city of
>>>>>>>yonkers
>>>>>
>>>>>A strategically placed comma or colon gives
>>>>>
>>>>>Bonnie:
>>>>>
>>>>>The YPRC Commodore has asked...
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually I'm afraid I'm not even a member of Yonkers -
>>>>>but I do think it's
>>>>>a great club, I've learned tons from Jack & others up
>>>>>there & I (and I
>>>>>suspect a lot of other people on this email list,
>>>>>although of course I can
>>>>>only speak on my own behalf) was happy to write a couple
>>>>>of letters during
>>>>>the last threat & would be happy to do that again, if it
>>>>>turns out it's
>>>>>appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bonnie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Lee Reiser/Leona Fontaine 
>>>>>>Sent: Feb 3, 2008 9:34 AM
>>>>>>To: "NYCkayaker at rockandwater.net"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: NYCkayaker YPRC Commodore
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear Mike Pidel,
>>>>>> Please be advised that the Commodore of our club is
>>>>>>not Bonnie. but
>>>>>>Madeline Wilson.
>>>>>>Lee Reiser
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