NYCkayaker Address letter where? Re: Coast Guard and New York Port Security

rob buchanan robbuc at aol.com
Fri May 9 22:30:59 EDT 2008


Here's the link for the entire notice:

http://cryptome.org/uscg050608.htm


And here is the section on procedures and addresses for comments:

Safety and Security Zones: New York Marine Inspection Zone and
Captain of the Port Zone

AGENCY: Coast Guard, DHS.

ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking.

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SUMMARY: The Coast Guard proposes to modify several aspects of the
permanent safety and security zones within the New York Captain of the
Port Zone. This action is necessary to consolidate, clarify, and
otherwise modify safety and security zone regulations to eliminate
unnecessary regulations and better meet the safety and security needs
of the New York and New Jersey port community. This action would modify
existing safety and security zones, consolidate and modify safety and
security zones currently found in separate regulations, and remove
certain safety and security zones.

DATES: Comments and related material must reach the Docket Management
Facility on or before July 7, 2008. Comments sent to the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) on collection of information must reach OMB
on or before July 7, 2008.

ADDRESSES: You may submit comments identified by Coast Guard docket
number USCG-2007-0074 to the Docket Management Facility at the U.S.
Department of Transportation. To avoid duplication, please use only one
of the following methods:
    (1) Online: http://www.regulations.gov.
    (2) Mail: Docket Management Facility (M-30), U.S. Department of
Transportation, West Building Ground Floor, Room W12-140, 1200 New
Jersey Avenue, SE., Washington, DC 20590-0001.
    (3) Hand delivery: Room W12-140 on the Ground Floor of the West
Building, 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE., Washington, DC 20590, between 9
a.m. and 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, except Federal holidays. The
telephone number is 202-366-9329.
    (4) Fax: 202-493-2251.
    You must also send comments on collection of information to the
Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Office of Management and
Budget. To ensure that the comments are received on time, the preferred
method is by e-mail at nlesser at omb.eop.gov or fax at 202-395-6566. An
alternate, though slower, method is by U.S. mail to the Office of
Information and Regulatory Affairs, Office of Management and Budget,
725 17th Street, NW., Washington, DC 20503, ATTN: Desk Officer, U.S.
Coast Guard.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: If you have questions on this proposed
rule, call Lieutenant Commander Mike McBrady, Waterways Management
Division, Coast Guard Sector New York (718) 354-2353. If you have
questions on viewing or submitting material to the docket, call Renee
V. Wright, Program Manager, Docket Operations, telephone (202) 366-
9826.

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:

Public Participation and Request for Comments

    We encourage you to participate in this rulemaking by submitting
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rulemaking (USCG-2007-0074), indicate the specific section of this
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announced by a later notice in the Federal Register.


On 5/9/08 10:18 PM, "William" <haawill at yahoo.com> wrote:

> That's what I'd like to know.
> 
> --- rob buchanan <robbuc at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree that this proposal is misguided. It would
>> close off too much of the
>> harbor and make it less navigable and less safe for
>> human-powered boats. The
>> channel between ellis and liberty islands is
>> particularly useful when you
>> want or need to get out of the middle of everything.
>> Imagine a big squall
>> out of the west, and some coast guard guy telling
>> you you can't take shelter
>> along the jersey shore. The suicide kayaker scenario
>> is just not a credible
>> threat--there are a million better ways to cause
>> mayhem, if that is your
>> aim. It certainly doesn't justify closing off access
>> to giant chunks of
>> public water. We all need to write letters about
>> this individually, and
>> persuade whatever groups we belong to, and the
>> elected officials that
>> represent us, to take a stand.
>>  
>> 
>> On 5/9/08 11:21 AM, "mike" <mpidel at optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I spend a lot of time at Wagner park at the tip of
>> Manhattan at the battery.
>>> The amount of people that walk, cycle, and use the
>> waterfront parks along
>>> this bulkhead has to be 1000 times greater than
>> the users of Ellis island.
>>> Large powerboats and numerous jet skis habitually
>> violate the current
>>> restrictions. What are they trying to protect on
>> Ellis island? The sailing
>>> school is thankfully putting up a strong
>> resistance to these new rules.  How
>>> deep is this areas north of Ellis island, could
>> larger vessels get close?
>>> Kayaks, human powered boats, and smaller sailboats
>> should be excluded from
>>> this madness. The security distance from the
>> Battery Park bulkhead at Wagner
>>> Park should be increased and enforced better.
>>> The cruise ship security no entry area should be
>> marked by buoys or some
>>> method. 
>>> They really should exclude human powered boats
>> from many of these proximity
>>> regs.
>>> The heliport security zone may be a red herring
>> since there are plans to
>>> move the one near pier 63 further out into the
>> river away from the greenway.
>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: NYCkayaker Coast Guard and New York
>> Port Security
>>>>>> Liberty and Ellis Islands and Liberty State
>> Park,
>>> 
>>> 
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