NYCkayaker Is my face red? Re: More about strobes

[bonnie13 at earthlink.net]

Maybe if she had a sloppy crew who left her fenders hanging out? 


-----Original Message-----
>From: William <haawill at yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 21, 2008 10:45 AM
>To: NYCkayaker at rockandwater.net
>Subject: NYCkayaker Is my face red? Re:  More about strobes
>
>"... in such a way as not to embarrass any vessel ..."
>
>Hmmm ... ok we're all adults here, we all know ships
>have propellers ...   ;-)
>
> 
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>
>--- bob1may at optonline.net wrote:
>
>> Separate from the rules about distress signals is
>> the rule about Signals to Attract Attention - which
>> specifically states that a strobe should not be used
>> to attract attention.Rule 36 - Signals to Attraction
>> Attention 
>>                   If necessary to attract the
>> attention of another vessel, any vessel 
>>               may make light or sound signals that
>> cannot be mistaken for any 
>>               signal authorized elsewhere in these
>> Rules, or may direct the beam 
>>               of her searchlight in the direction of
>> the danger, in such a way 
>>               as not to embarrass any vessel.  Any
>> light to attract the 
>>               attention of another vessel shall be
>> such that it cannot be mistaken 
>>               for any aid to navigation. For the
>> purpose of this Rule the use 
>>               of high intensity intermittent or
>> revolving lights, such as strobe 
>>               lights, shall be avoided. Bob-----
>> Original Message -----From:
>> bonnie13 at earthlink.netDate: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
>> 4:44 pmSubject: NYCkayaker RulesTo: nyckayaker > Oh,
>> I do like the frivolous turn this is starting to
>> take, but > I'm gonna indulge myself in one more bit
>> of my > logorrhea/bloggerrhea (ha ha ha). Sort of
>> copying it with slight > edits from a back-channel
>> exchange 'cause again, seemed worth > saying as long
>> as we're having Le Heavy Safety Discussion. > >
>> There's a full set of equipment requirements &
>> navigation> rules in the same place where I copied
>> the actual wording about > the status of strobes:> >
>> http://uscgboating.org/safety/fedreqs/equipment.htm>
>> > If you aren't already familiar with them, I really
>> think it's > worth the time to go through &
>> familiarize yourself with the > ones that apply to
>> kayaks - that's your baseline for the rules > by
>> which everybody out there has to abide. Somebody
>> writes you a > ticket for using a strobe in a
>> non-emergency situation, you > can't really say "But
>> I heard that at this event, they said..." -> no,
>> what's going to be enforced is what's written on the
>> books. > Word of mouth learning is better than
>> nothing, but we just saw > demonstrated quite
>> vividly, even different people listening to > the
>> same speakers had different understandings of what
>> was said. > It's like that telephone game. Or
>> Rashomon. > > Also sounds like a good demonstration
>> of the fact that the folks > enforcing the rules are
>> only human like the rest of us - subject > to a
>> little confusion when put on the spot about some
>> specific > detail they weren't expecting to be
>> quizzed on just like > anybody. I was once pulled
>> over by the Harbor Police around dusk > & told that
>> it was illegal for kayaks  to be out after dark. I >
>> knew the regulation they were thinking of (NYC parks
>> kayak > launch rules prohibit launching or landing
>> after dark), but > since I was closing  in on the
>> barge & about a minute from being > done paddling, I
>> didn't debate the point with them. In that > case,
>> though, it was REALLY nice to know enough of the
>> local > regulations to know why these guys might be
>> confused.> > Now, anybody hasn't heard about the
>> fellow who got tired of > being cold during winter
>> paddles & built a stove in his kayak & > is curious
>> about how it worked out, just let me know back->
>> channel! ;D> > > >
>>
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