NYCkayaker Solar Power Devices for Paddlers and Rowers

Geoff K. geoffk99@gmail.com
Wed Apr 7 20:50:52 EDT 2010


You asked for opinions & that's what I have to offer. You can do with 
them what you will.

Let us know how the discussions go with Solarrific.

-- Geoff

Erik Baard wrote:
> After this, I'll drop to back channel...
>
> I've been out on the water, pretty far from shore, in the dark and 
> fumbling to change batteries. That's not fun, and talk about a risk of 
> water exposure! I already have a hand-crank, solar-charging waterproof 
> and durable flashlight from Solarrific. I don't doubt the company 
> could achieve equally impressive results with the slight modifications 
> needed to produce navigation lights and strobes. 
>
> Solarrific might also be wise to partner with an existing marine radio 
> company to modify a product to include these options. The lighting 
> could be done from scratch. 
>
> That said, I'd likely scoop up a waterproof, hand-crank battery recharger.
>
> I agree about the need for universal batteries in several niche 
> markets (small marine devices, electric cars and boats, etc.) but this 
> is beyond the scope of Solarrific. 
>
> Best regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Geoff K. <geoffk99@gmail.com 
> <mailto:geoffk99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I understand, of course they're battery-powered, but batteries
>     recharged by solar or hand-crank should fit proven devices already
>     in use. The existing battery-powered devices have been
>     field-tested over time, and don't need  any re-design to have an
>     input port to connect the charging system -- more holes mean more
>     chances for water to get in. Using rechargeable batteries let the
>     existing devices be used as-is. This would let the device be used
>     while another set of batteries could be recharged at the same
>     time, possibly stored below deck with only the solar cell or
>     manual crank exposed. If a battery ran out while in use outside of
>     charging hours, a fresh set of batteries could get the device back
>     into service quickly.
>
>     I'd like to see the concentration in new technology lean towards
>     making better batteries that can be recharged and still fit in the
>     standard form factor that we all know and use. I'd like to see
>     marine batteries use standard rechargeable cells instead of having
>     unique formats for each manufacturer and often for each different
>     model from the same manufacturer.
>
>     I'd just rather not re-design a new light or radio if what I have
>     already works and just needs a fresh battery to keep working. We
>     need to improve battery technology far more than we need to
>     redesign proven designs that already run on batteries.
>
>     -- Geoff
>
>     Erik Baard wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Solar and hand-crank devices are still battery powered. The
>>     difference is that one can keep recharging the battery on site. 
>>
>>     As for the wheel, the basic concept might be the same but
>>     materials, computer controls, and tires are constantly improving.
>>       :)
>>
>>     Erik
>>
>>     On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Geoff K. <geoffk99@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:geoffk99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Why not just use battery-powered devices that are already
>>         tested and proven, and use solar/hand power to recharge the
>>         batteries that keep those devices running? Seems a lot
>>         simpler to me, and potentially much more versatile.
>>
>>         Why reinvent the wheel, just invent the recharger for the
>>         wheel's power source...
>>
>>         -- Geoff
>>
>>             Subject:
>>             NYCkayaker Solar Power Devices for Paddlers and Rowers
>>             From:
>>             Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com <mailto:erikbaard@gmail.com>>
>>             Date:
>>             Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:14:40 -0400
>>             To:
>>             kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net
>>             <mailto:nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>>
>>
>>             To:
>>             kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net
>>             <mailto:nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             Ahoy'all,
>>
>>             I'm in talks with a solar gear distributor with
>>             established manufacturing
>>             ties to make marine radios and navigation lights that are
>>             solar powered with
>>             a hand-crank backup. I believe that having such power
>>             options for these
>>             devices would significantly increase small boat safety.
>>             Naturally all gear
>>             would have to be submersible and rugged.
>>
>>             I have three questions for the list:
>>
>>             1) What marine radio do you believe should be the
>>             substrate device an
>>             inspiration for it? Maybe the Standard Horizon
>>             HX4715<http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=85&encProdID=71726205E5C6EC181DE69A09BC8877EA&DivisionID=3&isArchived=0
>>             <http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=85&encProdID=71726205E5C6EC181DE69A09BC8877EA&DivisionID=3&isArchived=0>>
>>
>>
>>              ?
>>
>>             2) What navigation lights do you believe should be the
>>             substrate or
>>             inspiration for this improvement? Maybe
>>             Tektite<http://www.tek-tite.com/src/products.php?c=6>?
>>
>>
>>             3) What other devices would you like to see powered by
>>             photovoltaic panels
>>             and hand cranks? Perhaps emergency strobes?
>>
>>             Thanks so much for lending me your brains.
>>
>>             Salty regards,
>>
>>             Erik
>>              
>>
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>>
>>     -- 
>>     Erik Baard
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>
>
> -- 
> Erik Baard
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