[NYCkayaker] {NYCWTA} kayak race timer arrested yesterday?

Rick Horan RickHoran@GatewayBoathouse.org
Mon Apr 22 14:41:36 EDT 2013


It seems to me that a potential terrorist would not go out of his way to
attract attention to himself by riding against traffic while carrying a
backpack.

I'm just sayin'.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Brous
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:24 PM
To: Sandra Sobanski
Cc: stevepete64@aol.com; nyckayaker**; nyc watertrail list
Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] {NYCWTA} kayak race timer arrested yesterday?

thanks, i think!  im not totally sure what the thing about the small moving
object means - polo ball, maybe?!  but i'm sorry that this is what society
has come to.  this guy rides his bike on this same route each sunday
morning, the last few at least with this same bag with the same thing inside
as he's trying to help people improve their speed by tracking improvements
in sprint times.  it's sad that people need to be suspicious but based on
the awful incident in boston and similar incidents of late, the world feels
very uncertain hese days.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Sandra Sobanski <dragonsandy1@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> This is what happens when you focus on a small moving object too long.
> Sorry about your teammate Nancy.
>
> On Apr 22, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Nancy Brous <nbrous@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> were there signs at every entrance to the park announcing the ban on 
>> bikes and backpacks?
>> i am a runner and a cyclist yet i was unaware of this ban.  it could 
>> have been me riding to my mom's apartment with a bag on my back.
>> i agree that nypd did what they should have, including releasing the 
>> guy when they were confident that he was not a threat.
>>
>> please do not call people names on this list.  he may or may not be a 
>> knucklehead but it's not ours to judge or pronounce.  regardless, 
>> this is not the place for it.
>> its just a matter of common courtesy.
>> consider this a respectful request from the list owners.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM,  <stevepete64@aol.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/stunt_bombs_with_cops_at_ny_race_
>>> x0TKdeBhdDWiINWBgGyTFP This Knucklehead should have been locked up 
>>> for sheer stupidity .Bombing of the Boston marathon is fresh on 
>>> everyone's mind except his, so he decides to ride against traffic 
>>> with a backpack in the middle of a Central park running race lol . 
>>> The NYPD did an Excellent job stopping this guy and checking him out 
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Martin Kaminer <martin.kaminer@gmail.com>
>>> To: Nancy Brous <nbrous@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: nyckayaker post <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>; nyc watertrail 
>>> list <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 7:29 am
>>> Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] {NYCWTA} kayak race timer arrested yesterday?
>>>
>>> Guy should be very glad he wasn't carrying a starter pistol!  He'd 
>>> be in Guantanamo by now, or worse. :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Nancy Brous <nbrous@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i totally agree, agassi.
>>>>
>>>> people who are doing no wrong need to be able to live their lives 
>>>> as usual - he is a cyclist and this is how he carries things.  it 
>>>> sounds like his only possible "crime" was riding against traffic in the
park.
>>>>
>>>> this was the perfect storm of high alert and someone by chance 
>>>> carrying something that, having seen it myself (its a little 
>>>> slow!), looks like what one imagines an incendiary device looks 
>>>> like - timer, switches, wires, and home-made.
>>>> but in spite of looking like something Wile E Coyote would 
>>>> fabricate to catch the road runner, the "device" is intended for a 
>>>> totally legitimate use and our cyclist friend has at least 12 
>>>> people who can vouch for its actual use as a sprint-timer.
>>>>
>>>> one thing that bothers me is that i fear if he weren't an 
>>>> english-speaking blue-eyed white guy, he'd be in jail right now or 
>>>> worse.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Agassi Nakhapetian 
>>>> <agas6@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I know the person and feel really bad about this incident.
>>>>> Naturally there was no ill intent on his part. When it comes to 
>>>>> the timer-its used for timing practices and sprint drills.
>>>>> I don't know what the outcomes of this incident should be as I was 
>>>>> not
>>>> there
>>>>> and don't know the details but I would assume that biker may get a 
>>>>> ticket for riding where he was not suppose to be biking and police 
>>>>> may need to provide public apology for holding this person and/or 
>>>>> compensate for any stress caused.
>>>>> as far as causing alert-i don't how and if we as members of 
>>>>> society we should alter our lives in fear of causing high alert.
>>>>> does that mean that we should stop carrying large cases? or stop 
>>>>> wearing dark sunglasses?
>>>>> I think we should continue to go about our business and people 
>>>>> paid to protect us should do what they need to keep us safe, 
>>>>> hopefully without abusing power. and if we happen to cross the 
>>>>> line-not forget to rectify
>>>> the
>>>>> damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Ray Fusco <Ray@rayfuscoinc.com>
>>>>> To: NYC Water Trail <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>; nyckayaker 
>>>>> post <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:20 AM
>>>>> Subject: {NYCWTA} kayak race timer arrested yesterday?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know anything about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a small incident where police stopped a man on a bike 
>>>>> riding against race traffic with a large backpack. Inside his 
>>>>> backpack was a cardboard box with holes for triggers and a screen 
>>>>> with a clock, which
>>>> had
>>>>> NYPD ready to arrest him.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end, he was a timer on his way to time a kayak race and his 
>>>>> timing equipment was in a box to protect it from weather.  I'm 
>>>>> wondering if
>>>> anyone
>>>>> might know who this person is and what kind of timing equipment he 
>>>>> might have had?
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, he was released but some people were upset that 
>>>>> he
>>>> should
>>>>> not have been in the park riding against a race with everyone on 
>>>>> high
>>>> alert.
>>>>> My thought is that he probably had no idea about the race.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray Fusco
>>>>>
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