[NYCkayaker] NYCKayaker Digest, Vol 93, Issue 17

Cindy pinetreehandy@gmail.com
Fri May 17 23:14:55 EDT 2013


Well......most of us do absolutely nothing effective. However I have done swim supports where volunteers are given color-coded net "vests" to wear over t-shirt or lifevest designating their role - light, cheap and no rational reason to refuse to wear them. 

Sincerely, 

Cindy Louis

On May 17, 2013, at 10:47 PM, nyckayaker-request@rockandwater.net wrote:

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>   1. Re:  Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island (Elizabeth Powers)
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>   3.   Re:  Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island (priley347@gmail.com)
>   4.  Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water (Janet Handy)
>   5. Re:  Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water (Erik Baard)
>   6. Re:  Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water (Erik Baard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Elizabeth Powers <elizabethmpowers@yahoo.com>
> To: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>, kayack
>    <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>,    nycwatertrail
>    <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
> Message-ID:
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> Nice idea. You've got my vote.
> ?
> E/
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
> To: kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>; nycwatertrail <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Why not lobby for a special annual event to land at Liberty Island and
> Ellis Island? Registered paddle and row boats could be inspected at a
> single launch site to ensure security. My proposal doesn't satisfy
> libertarian urges but it would make for a fun and meaningful experience.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Erik
> 
> -- 
> Erik Baard
> The 2011 Greenest New
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 13:40:37 -0400
> From: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
> To: Elizabeth Powers <elizabethmpowers@yahoo.com>
> Cc: kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>,    nycwatertrail
>    <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
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> And grateful for it. Granted Governors Island is categorically quite
> different, in terms of security perceptions, but our success there might be
> encouraging. If we launched from a single site, stayed together as a group,
> and volunteered our boats and selves for inspection before launch, rational
> concerns might be satisfactorily addressed. I imagine an escort boat might
> be involved.
> 
> Now I recognize this isn't an appealing scenario for many or perhaps most
> kayakers. That's fine. In time, restrictions might ease. In any case, if
> we're refused, there's no harm in further lobbying and no lives will be
> lost in the effort. We might have a stronger case if we built an
> educational element into the activity. At this point, given the significant
> restrictions on all 365 days, we have little to lose.
> 
> Liberty Island has unexpected historical interest. Because the island is
> forbidden, the western slope of it has a nice quantity of pottery, bricks,
> glass, and other beautiful and fascinating detritus. Back in the mid-1990s,
> a friend gathered bits of it while I floated a foot or two off shore.
> Different times.
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Elizabeth Powers <
> elizabethmpowers@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Nice idea. You've got my vote.
>> 
>> E/
>> 
>>   *From:* Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
>> *To:* kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>; nycwatertrail <
>> nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM
>> *Subject:* [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Why not lobby for a special annual event to land at Liberty Island and
>> Ellis Island? Registered paddle and row boats could be inspected at a
>> single launch site to ensure security. My proposal doesn't satisfy
>> libertarian urges but it would make for a fun and meaningful experience.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
>> --
>> Erik Baard
>> The 2011 Greenest New
>> Yorker<
>> http://thebeat.iloveny.com/i-love-new-york-announces-the-2011-greenest-nyer-3604.html
>> 
>> !
>> 
>> LEARNING ADVENTURE BOATING!
>> Founder, HarborLAB
>> http://www.facebook.com/HarborLAB
>> 
>> FREE APPLE TREES!
>> Founder, Newtown Pippin Restoration and Celebration
>> http://www.newtownpippin.org/
>> 
>> 
>> FREE KAYAKING!
>> Founder, LIC Community Boathouse
>> http://www.licboathouse.org/
>> 
>> Your Urban Wilderness Community:
>> http://www.naturecalendar.com/
>> **********************************************************************
>> The NYCKayaker mailing list is hosted by http://www.rockandwater.net/,
>> and is a public service offered to the kayaking community by the Hudson
>> River Watertrail Association. Learn more about HRWA at
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> 
> -- 
> Erik Baard
> The 2011 Greenest New
> Yorker<http://thebeat.iloveny.com/i-love-new-york-announces-the-2011-greenest-nyer-3604.html>
> !
> 
> LEARNING ADVENTURE BOATING!
> Founder, HarborLAB
> http://www.facebook.com/HarborLAB
> 
> FREE APPLE TREES!
> Founder, Newtown Pippin Restoration and Celebration
> www.newtownpippin.org
> 
> FREE KAYAKING!
> Founder, LIC Community Boathouse
> www.licboathouse.org
> 
> Your Urban Wilderness Community:
> www.naturecalendar.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:55:16 -0400
> From: priley347@gmail.com <priley347@gmail.com>
> To: Elizabeth Powers <elizabethmpowers@yahoo.com>, Erik Baard
>    <erikbaard@gmail.com>,    kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>,
>    nycwatertrail <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [NYCkayaker]  Re:  Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
> Message-ID:
>    <642411445.484266.1368816925744.JavaMail.webspher@njbbicssmp04>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Mine too
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Powers" <elizabethmpowers@yahoo.com>
> To: "Erik Baard" <erikbaard@gmail.com>, "kayack" <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>, "nycwatertrail" <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
> Date: Fri, May 17, 2013 1:26 pm
> 
> 
> Nice idea. You've got my vote.
> ?
> E/
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
> To: kayack <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>; nycwatertrail <nyc-water-trail@googlegroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Landing at Liberty and Ellis Island
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Why not lobby for a special annual event to land at Liberty Island and
> Ellis Island? Registered paddle and row boats could be inspected at a
> single launch site to ensure security. My proposal doesn't satisfy
> libertarian urges but it would make for a fun and meaningful experience.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Erik
> 
> -- 
> Erik Baard
> The 2011 Greenest New
> Yorker<http://thebeat.iloveny.com/i-love-new-york-announces-the-2011-greenest-nyer-3604.html>
> !
> 
> LEARNING ADVENTURE BOATING!
> Founder, HarborLAB
> http://www.facebook.com/HarborLAB
> 
> FREE APPLE TREES!
> Founder, Newtown Pippin Restoration and Celebration
> http://www.newtownpippin.org/
> 
> FREE KAYAKING!
> Founder, LIC Community Boathouse
> http://www.licboathouse.org/
> 
> Your Urban Wilderness Community:
> http://www.naturecalendar.com/
> **********************************************************************
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Janet Handy <nycjeliza@yahoo.com>
> To: NYCKAYAKER LISTSERV <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water
> Message-ID:
>    <1368838178.96144.YahooMailNeo@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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> 
> I am curious about how other boathouses distinguish volunteers from guests on the water during public programs.? Inwood Canoe Club has?tried T-shirts and they didn't seem to stand out that well under pfd's.? We have these crazy neon green baseball hats that are great for helping guests find ICC volunteers, but?some of our volunteers?don't like hats at all or want a brim all the way around.
> ?
> What do other Clubs do?
> ?
> thanks, 
> ?
> Janet Handy
> Commodore
> Inwood Canoe Club
> inwoodcanoeclub.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 18:22:38 -0700
> From: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
> To: Janet Handy <nycjeliza@yahoo.com>,    NYCKAYAKER LISTSERV
>    <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>
> Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water
> Message-ID: <7219754610111716836@unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Arm bands and pole flags could work. HarborLAB escorts will generally
> have distinct and uniform boats (the public fleet is uniform too,
> emphasizing that distinction), though those with private boats are
> welcome to assist. HarborLAB volunteers will have blue Guardian lights
> on night paddles.
> 
> Another easy fix would be uniform baseball caps or other such useful
> shade brimmed hats, maybe in orange?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Erik
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Janet Handy
> Sent: 5/17/2013 8:52 PM
> To: NYCKAYAKER LISTSERV
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water
> I am curious about how other boathouses distinguish volunteers from
> guests on the water during public programs.? Inwood Canoe Club has
> tried T-shirts and they didn't seem to stand out that well under
> pfd's.? We have these crazy neon green baseball hats that are great
> for helping guests find ICC volunteers, but?some of our volunteers
> don't like hats at all or want a brim all the way around.
> 
> What do other Clubs do?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Janet Handy
> Commodore
> Inwood Canoe Club
> inwoodcanoeclub.com
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 19:47:08 -0700
> From: Erik Baard <erikbaard@gmail.com>
> To: Janet Handy <nycjeliza@yahoo.com>,    NYCKAYAKER LISTSERV
>    <nyckayaker@rockandwater.net>
> Subject: Re: [NYCkayaker] Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water
> Message-ID: <-3459446707934787145@unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Whoops. Sorry, forgot you'd tried hats. Maybe Velcro a nylon sheet with
> your printed logo onto the back of a pfd?
> 
> Erik
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Janet Handy
> Sent: 5/17/2013 8:52 PM
> To: NYCKAYAKER LISTSERV
> Subject: [NYCkayaker] Distinguishing Volunteers on the Water
> I am curious about how other boathouses distinguish volunteers from
> guests on the water during public programs.? Inwood Canoe Club has
> tried T-shirts and they didn't seem to stand out that well under
> pfd's.? We have these crazy neon green baseball hats that are great
> for helping guests find ICC volunteers, but?some of our volunteers
> don't like hats at all or want a brim all the way around.
> 
> What do other Clubs do?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Janet Handy
> Commodore
> Inwood Canoe Club
> inwoodcanoeclub.com
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